Rankings, Recent Scores, and Leaderboards FAQ
The first part of this page addresses questions concerning the Recent Scores console in your profile. The second part addresses questions about our PLB races.
For questions about our the fomula we use to calculate PLB scores, please visit our Leaderboard Formula page. To calculate your own scores, you may use our PLB Calculator.
Rankings and Recent Scores FAQ
- Why did my recent scores disappear from my profile, or why aren't they there at all?
- What do I need to do to receive ranking consideration?
- Why is a specific tournament not listed as a result in my profile?
- How often are my recent scores updated?
- If I just created an account, what tournaments will appear? Do you go back and find past scores?
- Will my old scores count if I change site names in my profile or will I lose results? Can I use two names for one site?
- Why are my lower prize pool (<$10k) tournaments not listed?
- Why aren't my multi-table SNG results listed?
- Are satellite tournaments tracked?
- Why can't I find my location in the country/region/city dropdown lists?
- What are the Sortable Rankings and how are they calculated?
- What determines the PocketFives.com World Wide Rankings?
- Who votes in the Pro Poll?
- What happened to the original PocketFives.com rankings?
- If my account on a certain site (i.e. Full Tilt) becomes inaccessible at some point, can I acquire points using another name on that site?
- Why is my PLB score for a specific tournament off by a fraction of a point?
- Why is the PLB score in my profile different than the one on the rankings and PLB standings pages?
- Why aren't my multi-table SNG results listed?
PocketFives Leaderboards (PLB) FAQ
- Who is considered for PLB races?
- How do the monthly and yearly leaderboards work?
- How does the sliding leaderboard work?
Rankings and Recent Scores FAQ
Points for all tournament cashes (those used for recent scores, plb races, and the sliding leaderboard) are calculated using the PocketFives.com Leaderboard Formula. To calculate your own scores, you may use our PLB Calculator.
1. Why did my recent scores disappear from my profile, or why aren't they there at all?
There may be several reasons why your recent scores are not displayed in your profile:
·If you change, add, or remove poker site names in your profile, your scores are temporarily removed to account for the changes you have made. Your scores will reappear in your profile and recent scores pages when the next results sweep occurs (typically once a day during the middle of the night U.S. Central Time), so if you changed your profile and see your scores have disappeared, relax, they will be there tomorrow!
· If your screen names on various sites have not been entered, were entered incorrectly, or have not been verified(no green check mark beside the name), your scores can not be attached to your PocketFives profile.If there is a mistake with one of your site names (or if it hasn't yet been entered), simply update your profile to correct any mistakes, and your scores will appear the following day. If your names are unverified, please contact [email protected].
·Some poker sites are not tracked by PocketFives.com, and some tournaments on those sites are also not tracked. For a full listing of tracking requirements, please see Why is a specific tournament not listed as a result in my profile? below.
2. What do I need to do to receive ranking consideration?
All you need to do to receive ranking consideration is 1) be a registered user on PocketFives.com, 2) have your site names filled out in your profile, and 3) play tournaments that satisfy our ranking criteria (see details below). If your screen names on the various sites are not entered, have been entered incorrectly, or have not been verified (no green check mark beside the site name), results for those names will not be considered for the rankings. Here is an example of how the site names section of your profile should look:
If a name or names in your profile are unverified, please contact [email protected].
3. Why is a specific tournament not listed as a result in my profile?
There may be several possible reasons why a result would not be listed in your profile:
·The tournament did not occur on one of the following sites tracked by PocketFives.com or the tournament occurred before we tournaments on that site:
Bodog(started tracking on 7/12/2006)
Full Tilt Poker(started tracking on 7/12/2006)
PartyPoker(started tracking on 7/12/2006)
PokerStars(started tracking on 7/12/2006)
UltimateBet(started tracking on 7/12/2006)
PokerRoom(started tracking on 12/10/2007) ***This is the ONGAME NETWORK
· The tournament occurredmore than one year ago. Though the tournament may have been tracked, for server efficiency, we only list a year's worth of results on recent scores pages.
· The tournament occurredless than five (5) days ago. It takes up to five days after a tournament completes for it to be displayed on PocketFives.com.
· The tournament hadfewer than 100 entrants.
· The tournament occurred before 6/22/2007 and had a prizepool less than $10,000. (On PartyPoker, the date for this requirement is 9/20/2007. That is to say that all PartyPoker tournaments prior to 9/20/2007 needed at least a $10k prizepool to be tracked.)
·The tournamenthad a prizepool less than $1,000.
·The tournament occurred before 4/12/2007 and had a buy-in less than $10.
· The tournament occurred before 11/1/2006 and had a first prize of less than $3,500.
· The tournament was not a scheduled tournament. 180-man SNGs on Stars, for instance, are not tracked. The only exception is 180-man SNGs on Full Tilt, which are included in our feed.
· The tournament was a satellite tournament or a freeroll. Only non-satellite tournaments with a real money buy-in are tracked by PocketFives.com.
If your result meets all of the above criteria and is still not listed, please send an email to [email protected], and we will attempt to resolve the problem.
4. How often are my recent scores updated?
Scores shown in your profile are updated once a day in the middle of the night (typically around 3 AM U.S. Central Time). Each tournament score, however, is imported after a varying length of time for every site. Please wait up to 5 days for each room to see if your recent scores have been updated.
The fact that your PokerStars scores from yesterday are listed does not mean that your UB or AP scores from the same day should be listed as well.
5. If I just created an account, what tournaments will appear? Do you go back and find past scores?
When your results are added to your profile after creating an account or after editing the screen names in your profile, all tournaments we have tracked in the last year will be included.
6. Will my old scores count if I change site names in my profile or will I lose results? Can I use two names for one site?
We do not allow our users to have results from two different names from the same site. Scores will only count from one screen name per site, per player. You should choose whichever site name you want to count going forward. If you'd like to change the site name in your profile, you can do that, but only scores from whichever name you currently have listed will count for your PLB total.
If you are forced to change names on a site for whatever reason, one thing that may give you comfort in losing your old scores is that old point values drop off over time based on how our Sliding PLB works.
7. Why are my lower prize pool (<$10k) tournaments not listed?
We did not begin tracking prize pools between $1k and $10K until after June 22, 2007 for Absolute, Bodog, Full Tilt, PokerStars, and Ultimate Bet. For PartyPoker, we didn't start tracking tournaments with under $10k in the prizepool until 9/20/2007. Tournaments prior to those dates needed to have a minimum prizepool of $10,000 in order to be tracked.
8. Why aren't my multi-table SNG results listed?
We do not currently have the ability to track multi-table SNG's and the like, so we only track scheduled tournaments at this time. The only exception is for 180-man sit-n-go's on Full Tilt, which are included in the feed we receive.
9. Do satellite tournaments count for the rankings?
No. Satellite wins do not count for the player rankings.
10. Why can't I find my location in the country/region/city dropwdown lists?
You must enter your location in your profile in order to be included in our rankings by country, state/region, and city.
Many of the smaller cities and towns, however, are not listed in our system. If you fall into this category, we generally recommend that you name the nearest city to you that is listed.
11. What are the Sortable Rankings and how are they calculated?
The Sortable Rankings are rankings by location, age group, and other factors, and they are calculated using the Sliding PLB. Sortable rankings simply filter the sliding leaderboard to include only members of a certain state, country, city, age group, or other criteria. You can also create sortable lists for Monthly and Yearly PLBs.
There is also a console on the front page where you can choose what country or region for which you'd like to see rankings when you come to the site. The console defaults to showing rankings from your own country or state (based on the location listed in your profile or IP address), but you can change this setting based on your own personal preferences by going to our Sortable Rankings Page.
12. What determines the PocketFives.com World Wide Rankings?
The PocketFives.com World Wide Rankings are an attempt to accurately rank online tournament players. Every Wednesday afternoon, rankings are updated automatically. The Rankings are based on three factors, each of which has equal weight:
1) Recent Results – PocketFives.com tracks tournament results for members who have listed the appropriate screen names in their profiles. These results are used to compile a Sliding PocketFives.com Leaderboard (PLB), the specifics of which (how points are accumulated and how they gradually drop off) are answered by How does the sliding leaderboard work?.
The rankings use collected results from the latest 12-month period, ending with the most recent Sunday. This means, for instance, that when the rankings are compiled on Wednesday 7/18/2007, the most recent results included are from the previous Sunday, 7/15/2007. The oldest results included are from 7/16/2006.
2) Opinions of their Peers – The PocketFives.com World Wide Rankings also uses a subjective portion in its formula. The purpose of this subjective portion is to reward long-term winning potential as defined by the best in the industry and to exalt players who have exhibited long term success. In addition to pure numbers, we believe that a good rankings system must reward aspects of the game that go unseen in the charts, and with numerous internet players voting in our Pro Poll, all of whom have extensive experience playing in the biggest online tournaments, we end up with a successful showing of which top internet players are most respected by their peers.
The pollers have the opportunity to rank the top internet players as they see fit, under the condition that the players they rank must all have achieved a top-200 score in the current sliding PLB. Pollers also have the option to rank as many or as few of those top 200 as they please. Any players that a poller does not rank will be relegated to their corresponding sliding PLB order, such that each poll has 200 ranked players even if the poller in question chose to rank a smaller number.
The pro pollers have criteria on which to rank players, and those criteria state that this is not simply a ranking based on "skill." Instead, an idividual pro poller's rankings should model a longer-term version of the sliding PLB. That is to say that the pro poll reflects top players' views on which players have been the most successful in the past and also which players are most likely to continue that success.
Pro Pollers who don't update their rankings for a month straight forfeit their poll count until further updates occur. This rule encourages pro poll participation and keeps collective pro poll averages from remaining overly stale.
3) Previous Ranking – In order to prevent players from sliding up and down the rankings too fast based on a hot or cold streak, the final portion of the World Wide Rankings is based on the player's ranking the previous week. If a player wasn't ranked the previous week, their previous ranking is 101 for the purpose of this system (in accordance with the 100 players that are ranked on a weekly basis). All unranked players therefore have an equal chance of entering the rankings on any given week.
13. Who votes in the Pro Poll?
A large number of successful online tournament players vote in the pro poll. We strongly encourage you to let us know at [email protected] if you believe you or someone you know should be voting in this poll. We receive numerous requests from individuals that are interested in participating, and we take steps to ensure that each person receives apt consideration.
PocketFives.com holds sole discretion over which individuals are allowed to vote in this poll.
14. What happened to the original PocketFives.com rankings?
The original PocketFives.com Online Tournament Player Rankings, despite the interest and discussion it created, was removed as we gradually felt that a rankings system with a higher level of accountability was needed. The original rankings, which were largely subjective in nature, have been replaced accordingly and have never factored into the new PocketFives.com World Wide Rankings.
15. If my account on a certain site (i.e. Full Tilt) becomes inaccessible at some point, can I acquire points using another name on that site?
Typically, the answer is no, but there are exceptions. If you've been the victim of a hacking incident and are forced to play on a different account for a short time, you may let us know ahead of time via email ([email protected]), and we can manually add cashes from that time into your rankings profile. We will need to know specifically what the cause of the issue is, as well as how long you will be playing on a different name. Except in extreme situations, we will not allow scores from multiple names on the same site to count for the rankings.
16. Why is my PLB score for specific tournament off by a fraction of a point?
Sometimes, cashes in a tournament will be listed in whole dollar amounts, omitting the cents that were paid out by the site on which the tournament was played. This rounding may result in a small difference between the score you calculate in our PLB calculator and the score you receive in the recent scores section of your profile, but will never affect any score by more than half a point of what you'll determine in our PLB Calculator.
17. Why is the PLB score in my profile different than the one on the rankings and PLB standings pages?
When the rankings and PLB standings pages are updated, they grab information up through the previous Sunday (in the case of the rankings) and up through the previous two days (in the case of the monthly, yearly, and sliding PLBs). Scores in your profile and scores on your recent scores page are updated nearly twice a day every day. As such, since leaderboard pages are not updated on the same schedule as profile pages, there is sometimes a discrepancy between the two, particularly if someone has had scores in the last few days that qualify for the PLB.
PocketFives Leaderboards (PLB) FAQ
All PocketFives leaderboards award points based on our Leaderboard Formula for all "in the money" finishers in tournaments that meet our rankings criteria. To calculate your own scores, you may use our PLB Calculator.
1. Who is considered for PLB races?
All registered members of PocketFives.com are considered for the monthly and yearly PLB races. Scores are only counted for those screen names which are entered and verified in the registered user's profile.
2. How do the monthly and yearly leaderboards work?
Each leaderboard has a maximum number of tournaments that can count for a player per site for certain periods of time:
Monthly Leaderboard – Top 20 finishes in a month, with a maximum of 12 from any single site.
Yearly Leaderboard – Top 100 finishes in a year, with a maximum of 60 from any single site.
3. How does the sliding leaderboard work?
The Sliding Leaderboard is the leaderboard that factors into the results portion of the PocketFives.com World Wide Rankings. The Sliding PLB is also the sole source of information for all Sortable Rankings (i.e. rankings by country, age, and other criteria).
The Sliding Leaderboard combines a player's top 40 finishes, with a maximum of 24 from any single site and spans the most recent 12 months of data collected by PocketFives.com.
Scores that are 3-6 months old retain 75% of their original PLB value, scores that are 6-9 months old retain 50% of their original value, and scores that are 9-12 months old retain 25% of their original value.
In other words, if a player wins a tournament and receives 200 PLB points for that win, after 3 months, that score is worth 150 points, after 6 months, it's worth 100 points, and after 9 months, it's worth 50 points. The PLB score drops off entirely after a year. NOTE: This only applies to the sliding PLB, NOT the yearly PLB!
In contrast to the monthly and yearly leaderboards, the sliding leaderboard is not calendar-dependent; where a monthly leaderboard contains data for January, May, etc. (one calendar month) and the yearly leaderboard contains data for one calendar year from start to finish, the sliding leaderboard contains data for the most recent one year period, regardless of what point in a month or in a year that period begins.
Note that the sliding leaderboard is NOT equivalent to the World Wide Rankings. It is, however, one of the three major components of those rankings, a full description of which can be found by reading What determines the PocketFives.com World Wide Rankings?.